Paul Craig Roberts, part 1: Brexit means the end of Europe, a CIA funded project, end of NATO

Part 1:  Britain should leave the EU, an orchestrated CIA creation

Preface by Pam Barker | TLB staff writer

This is the first part of an interview Dr. Paul Craig Roberts recently gave to Julian Charles of The Mind Renewed.  The loose transcript of this interview is below.

In this first part, a very important article from 2000 by Ambrose Pritchard-Evans writing for the Telegraph is referenced.  The link to that can be found here.  The link to Dr. Roberts’ recent blog post, also referenced, can be found here.

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INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPT

The CIA created the EU

PCR:  Washington is committed to the EU project because it’s in its own interests. Cameron’s job is to scare people to remain.

Basically, the EU is a creation of the CIA, discovered some years ago by an American professor who came upon archived public documents that had been declassified. It was reported on by the Telegraph in 2000 by Ambrose Pritchard-Evans. The documents show that the CIA did this – organised and lobbied for the creation of the EU first to be a bloc against the Soviets, and second to enable Washington’s control. Controlling all the separate European governments – there are now 28 of them – is too difficult. It’s easier to deal with one bloc.

Washington set the EU up to have a firm hold on its empire. It goes back to the ‘50s – the EU was a creation of the CIA to enhance its empire. If one government holds out when making a deal over something, nothing can happen as a group. But Washington only has to deal with one entity if the countries are all dissolved. That’s why it has pushed strongly to put Eastern Europe in the EU and NATO, too.

JC:  Patrick Wood in his book ‘Technocracy Rising’ talks about the work of the Trilaterial Commission. In this book he quotes a private conversation with David Rockefeller who said, ‘Back in the early 70s, the hope for a united Europe was already full blown thanks in many ways to the individual energies previously spent by so many of the Trilateral Commission’s earliest members’.

PCR: The EU is an American creation orchestrated through European individuals under certain pretexts which gave them cover. It was all done in stages but it’s all the work of the CIA essentially. And we have to remember that it’s what the CIA documents have said themselves, not the people bringing them to light.

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JC:  A CIA memo of June 11, 1965 to the vice-president president of the EEC, Robert Marjolin, said to pursue monetary union by stealth and to suppress all debate until the adoption of all such proposals would become virtually inescapable.

PCR: These CIA documents are publicly available and can be checked through the National Archives.

JC: The American Committee for a United Europe created in 1948 was full of intelligence people – it was headed by William J. Donovan who had been head of the forerunner of the CIA, the Vice-Chairman was Allen Dulles and the board included the CIA’s first director and a roster of other CIA members.

PCR: It succeeded because America is firmly in control of Europe – its foreign policy, its economic policy, whatever the various elected presidents say or don’t say, or any forced retractions. Cameron has been told by Obama to deep-six the British exit from the EU. Cameron is a puppet of Washington like all British PMs. You can’t put British interests ahead of American ones – it’s not allowed.

UK government propaganda on Washington’s behalf

So the leaders go to the people and tell them that the UK will lose its influence if it leaves the EU – they’ll become Little England.

JC: The UK government has spent 9 million pounds on a glossy leaflet to persuade people to vote for staying in. It claims the UK has special status in the EU, that we can control our borders and keep the pound, that there will be tough new restrictions on access to welfare, and there’s a commitment to reduce EU red tape. Do you believe that ?

PCR: No. When the issue of the EU comes up, the UK government always says we’re negotiating special conditions in order to stay in. They mix reassurance of a special deal with fear, that we’ll be ruined if we leave.

British currency

In a certain respect, the UK isn’t in the EU because it’s still got its own currency, the pound, unlike countries such as Spain, Greece, Portugal and Italy. So that means you have your own central bank, that you can simply print pounds to get out of financial trouble and you don’t need to rely on private banks. But countries that rely on the Euro can’t do this because they can’t print euros. They don’t have their own money-creating central bank. Only the ECB can print euros and it’s controlled by Germany more or less, but not by other member countries. And this is run by former Goldman Sachs’ executives, the same people who run the Federal Reserve and US Treasury. They also run the ECB!

JC: So is the UK ok then? Could we stay in and not need the Brexit? And they tell us there won’t be more political integration with Europe.

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PCR: No.  You’re ok for NOW if you get into financial trouble. They can’t walk in and decimate public services, the NHS, cut pensions and sell off public assets to private investors abroad. But of course you can’t really be in the EU and not be in it. So over time you gradually become more and more in it.

British justice is unique

Already, the legal system is being compromised. British justice is different to European justice – evidence is different, the rights of the accused are different. The historical achievements that the British people fought for for centuries are being lost. The achievements come from the Magna Carta and even earlier from Alfred the Great’s codification of the common law   The English approach to justice is unique and was copied by the US. It’s not present on the continent – people don’t have the same rights. So we’re already losing historical aspects of British legal accomplishments by staying in. And that process of loss will continue.

Britain is more in the EU now than it was say 5 years ago. I suspect that Washington will urge the process along much quicker. Staying in the EU makes no sense for the UK because it destroys national sovereignty.

JC: But they say it’s better for trade.

PCR: But that’s a lie. You don’t need to have political integration to have open markets.

JC: Leon Brittan said we would be penalized with tariffs if we didn’t join with the EU.

PCR: he’s lying through his teeth! You don’t need political union to do free trade! A trade block is not a political union. This was part of the deceit practiced on the people. Originally the EU was said to be a trading zone. Then the CIA sprang upon everybody that it would be a political union.

Creation of the EU based on deceit

First, the EU was about a steel and coal union with tariff reductions, then it was about free trade, then it was about a common currency – the need for this was manufactured, and then it became about a political union. It was sprung on Europeans in stages. And there were many spokesmen for this. And these are European politicians who live well on their CIA pensions. It’s all deceit. The EU is based in deceit and British people are being told more of the deceit. The British people will disappear as a people when they are absorbed in the EU.

EU, US are not democratic

The EU is not democratic. You can elect people to the Parliament, but it’s the Commission that has power and it’s not elected. So it’s like a form of monarchy. It’s a reversal of European history: not only do the individual nationalities disappear but the achievement of making government accountable to the people has gone along with that.   The EU has recreated rule by a single ruler or by aristocrats who aren’t accountable. It’s set up as a dictatorship and will get more so.

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The US doesn’t have an EU Commission but if we look at the current balance of power between the executive and legislative branches in the US government, the legislative branch has lost all its power. The government is run by the executive branch. For example, the Constitution says that only Congress can declare war, but both the executive branch and Congress ignore that. They also say that all tax matters originate from a committee in the House of Representatives, but that is compromised.

Every function of the legislature has been compromised. The executive branch has gained more and more power such that it’s even become independent of the judiciary. Bush violated the constitutional right of habaeus corpus when he declared he would detain American citizens indefinitely without due process. The judiciary didn’t enforce this right of h.c. but should have. And Obama just continued that. He even added to it by killing Americans based on suspicion alone without due process, and the courts did nothing about that. The executive branch we know also practiced torture but it’s illegal under US federal law as well as international law. It’s also illegal under US federal law to spy on people without warrants – and it goes against the Constitution – but nothing has been done.

In the US, the separation of powers has been ignored and the judiciary does nothing to enforce the powers of Congress against the power of the executive. So the US is moving toward dictatorship and that’s WITHOUT the dictatorial structure the EU has, so the British should save the whole world by exiting the EU. Everybody will exit after that and the EU will no longer exist. It’s a pain for the domestic politicians being in the EU – they would like to get out and Britain would give them the case to do that.

And that’s why Obama came over and told everybody it was in everybody’s interests to stay in Europe, that Britain has a ‘special relationship’ with the UK. But Washington doesn’t care about Europe. Europe is vassal territory – it’s part of the empire.

If the EU is threatened, so is NATO

Leaving Europe also means nations will leave NATO. And then Washington can’t carry on its wars and can’t risk a nuclear war with Russia. It can’t use the idiot Europeans to threaten Russia anymore. So Washington’s drive for world hegemony falls apart.

Europeans have even LESS interest being in NATO than in the EU. European nations don’t want confrontation with Russia that they’ve so far been forced into by Washington. They’ve already been forced to bust up their diplomatic and economic relationship with Russia. Now they’re being forced into a conflict situation with Russia. If war happens, Europe will disappear permanently. It’s in nobody’s interests to have problems with Russia.

And why did this come about? Because Washington overthrew the elected government in Ukraine believing nothing would happen as a consequence. But Russia reacted and wanted the Russian population to remain Russian. So NATO reacted with sanctions and forced EU countries to do the same with sanctions. Now it’s come down to warmongering and inventing stories about Russia’s threat of war and moving missile systems to the Russian border.

NEXT:  Part 2 with Dr. Paul Craig Roberts

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Pam Barker is a TLB staff writer/analyst based in France. She has an extensive background in the educational systems of several countries at the college and university level as a teacher and administrator.

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